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Completed: 1861 & 71 Lookup - DORMAN
« on: Thursday 18 May 06 14:11 BST (UK) »
Hi There

Would someone be so kind as to look up DORMAN at 24 Moncrieff Rd Peckham in the 1861 & 1871 Census for me?

This is the address at which my Gt GM Margaret Jane Dorman was living when she married in 1876.  Her parents were Jacob Gowland Dorman, Engineer or Engine worker, and Margaret Fenwick and I'm hoping for some clues as to where they came from. 

Gt Grandma was born in Constantinople, which is romantic but of no use in tracking down the ancestors!

Thanks, Jane
DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.

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Re: 1861 & 71 Lookup - DORMAN
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 May 06 14:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Jane,

here is a sad one - :'(

1871 Census Wanstead Essex

Orphan Asylum for children of desceased British Merchant Seamen

Jacob Dorman, 12, Inmate Orphan, Scholar, Constantinople Turkey

RG10/1635
Folio: 181
Page: 7

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Re: 1861 & 71 Lookup - DORMAN
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 May 06 14:30 BST (UK) »
I am struggling to find Margaret in 1871, do you have an age for her?

Nicky
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Re: 1861 & 71 Lookup - DORMAN
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 May 06 14:32 BST (UK) »
Wow.  Thanks for that Darcy.  Margaret's marriage certificate states that her father was deceased by 1876 but that is sad.

Still she made up for the lack of family life by going on to have 14 children, my grandfather being # 13.

Jane
DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.

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Re: 1861 & 71 Lookup - DORMAN
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 May 06 14:33 BST (UK) »
Margaret Jane Dorman b 2 Sept 1856, Constantinople, so she would've been ~ 15 in '71
DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.

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Re: 1861 & 71 Lookup - DORMAN
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 May 06 14:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

Also found this for 1871, could be another sibling?

Thomas B Dorman, lodger, age 25, engine fitter born Constantinople British Subject.

RG10 5004
folio 12 page 17
Bishop Wearmouth, Durham

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Re: 1861 & 71 Lookup - DORMAN
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 May 06 14:58 BST (UK) »
Sorry cannot find Margaret in 1871, in later census there is also a Robert Dorman born c 1853 in Constantinople.

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Re: 1861 & 71 Lookup - DORMAN
« Reply #7 on: Friday 19 May 06 10:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks Nicky.

Can you tell me which cencus and where Robert was then?

Jane
DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.

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Re: 1861 & 71 Lookup - DORMAN
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 May 06 14:01 BST (UK) »
Hi

The first census that I can find Robert in is the 1891

1891 census

Robert Dorman, head, age 28, chemical labourer born Constantinople British Subject
Elizabeth, wife, age 27 born Hornsey Fortis Green
Elizabeth, dau, age 7 born Essex Custom House
William, son, age 5 born Wilts Devizes
Herbert, son, age 3 born Essex Stratford

RG12 1311
folio 34 page 61
Stratford, West Ham, Essex

and here he is the 1901

Robert Dorman, head, age 38, ?? labourer (first word not clear) born Constantinople
Elizabeth, wife, age 36 born Finchley
Elizabeth, dau, age 18, domestic servant born Essex Stratford
William, son, age 15, stable boy born Wilts Devizes
Herbert, son, age 13, errand boy born Essex Stratford
Sarah, dau, age 9 born Essex Stratford
Charles, son, age 5 born ?? Southgate

RG13 1236
folio 87 page 51
Friern Barnet, Middlesex

I will have a look and see whether I can find him earlier that 1891.

Nicky

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br /><br />Sewell - Surrey<br />Lynch - Ireland, Devon and Channel Islands<br />Whall and Pye - Norwich, Essex and Kent<br />Cotterill - Warwickshire<br />Adams - North and East Riding of Yorkshire<br />Preest, Dufty Lewis, Aston - Forest of Dean
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